Damn You, Uncle Lewis - "Shadow Boxer"
The "We Hate Uncle Lewis Club" is back in session for another deep dive into FRIDAY THE 13TH: THE SERIES as we discuss Season One Episode Eight: "Shadow Boxer".
After the owner of a boxing gym is found beaten to death in an alley, the crew realizes someone is using a pair of cursed boxing gloves to unleash a murderous shadow that does their evil bidding.
You can expect:
- Fatal Fisticuffs!
- Egregious Gaslighting!
- The Birth of the Bucket Hat!
- Knives in Noses!
- A Shockingly Solid Script!
- Snarky Repartee and Wisecracking Wisdom from Patrick, Maya and Trae.
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Transcript
Oh, hello. Come in, come in, come in. Do come in out of the terrible weather. Oh, welcome. Welcome to my very curious curio shop.
Although I hate to inform you the shop is closed for tonight because there's a. Well, it's a rather special evening. It's a monthly meeting of sorts.
Patrick:So unless you're here for the meeting, I'm going to have to ask you to leave. The nature of the meeting, you ask? Well, let me put it to you this way. Sometimes Uncle Louis does dreadful things.
Welcome to Damn you Uncle Lewis, the Friday the 13th series retrospective podcast. Ladies, ladies, ladies.
Patrick:And and and
Patrick: ious Goods Boxatorium and the:My name is Patrick the Hat Trick, which I know is a hockey reference, but hey, we're in Canada! Let's meet tonight's contenders.
And this corner, dressed as what can only be described as Ruth Bader Ginsburg meets Aeon Flux Maya the Destroyer Murphy. And in this corner, wearing little Orphanany's signature red dress and curly wig, Trae Easy Street Dean. But wait, who's that? The other corner.
There should be another corner. This isn't wrestling, it's boxing. Oh, my God. Wearing an ill fitting suit and an ugly ascot, it's Uncle Lewis. Hi, everybody.
Welcome to another episode of Damn you Uncle Lewis. And we already have. Oh my gosh. Uncle Lewis already took out Trae Dean, Trae Dean is out of the match.
Maya:The champion. I am the champion. Fear me.
Patrick:Hi, Maya. Welcome to the show.
Maya:Fear me.
Patrick:Oh, yeah, I do, baby.
Tommy Dunn:I do.
Patrick:Hi, everybody. I'm Patrick, your host and Trae Dean, unfortunately is having technical problems and will not be joining us today. For Shadow.
Maya:He will be missed.
Patrick:He will be missed. He will be missed. Let's talk about her. Oh, my goodness.
Maya:Oh my goodness.
Patrick:Okay. So how you doing, Maya?
Maya:I'm pretty good. How are you?
Patrick:I'm doing okay. I'm doing okay. I have those days where the walls start closing in.
Maya:You have walls?
Patrick:I do have walls. I have. I only have three because I live on a theater set.
Maya:I live in the round. No walls.
Patrick:You see, somebody broke my fourth wall.
Maya:Oh, yeah, well, that's because you got that proscenium thrust.
Patrick:Oh, if only. All right, all right, all right. Here you. Hear, hear. This meeting of the we hate Uncle Lewis club is called. Order, Order, Order, order, order, order.
So the episode that we're talking about today is Shadow Boxer Season 1, Episode 8. Shadow Boxer was directed by Timothy Bond. Timothy Bond, one of the more prolific directors of Friday the 13th series.
He directed a total of nine episodes. The two that we've seen already are Poison Pen and Halloween. He's also a screenwriter on Happy Birthday to Me, so that's pretty awesome.
Way to go, Timothy. And our screenwriter for Shadowboxer is Josh Miller. Josh Miller, Gemini award nominee.
And we'll be meeting him again later this season on Brain Drain. Maya, would you give me a little rundown what's going on? What's Uncle Lewis up to now? Let me guess. It has something to do with boxing.
I wonder what the cursed item could be.
Maya:It has something to do with boxing. It's a purse. It's a very boxy purse. So utilitarian, really. Just put a brick in it and hurl it at your enemies. Now our.
who was a famous boxer in the: Patrick:And now here they are on the present day at Manny's Gym.
Maya:And now we're here at Manny's Gym.
Patrick:And someone else has got the gloves. Dun, dun, dun. That's basically it. Before we go any further, I just have to say the writing is getting better.
Maya:It is.
Patrick:But that means we're losing some fun stuff. There was no American reference this time.
Maya:I know.
Patrick:There was no funny Jack voice, no.
Maya:No Jackcents, no wigs.
Patrick:No. No wigs that we know. Well, we got a hat instead. Well, we'll get into that.
Maya:We'll talk about the hat.
Patrick:And no really obvious Jack is gay statements. Ding dong Patrick from the future here.
You know, sometimes when I'm editing a show, I catch things I missed the first time around because, oh boy, did Patrick from the past miss a really obvious Jack. This gay statement. And also an American town reference. But I'll let you know about them when we get there. Bing bong. Back to the show.
Maya:I have an. I have an. I have a gay note.
Patrick:Really? In an episode that's mostly men walking around in teeny, tiny satiny shorts.
Maya:It's not a nice note.
Patrick:Also, no fashion in this one because, I mean, not much to choose from because everybody's either in sweats or teeny, tiny satin shorts for the most part.
Maya:Our buddy Cornelius had a really nice silk robe, you know, box.
Patrick:That's one. I'm sorry. It was vivid and violent. Robe and boxer shorts. I wrote that one, too. That's my second choice. But we'll get into fashion later.
But the cast, Dude Ferry plays our Bad guy this time. Tommy. Terrible Tommy. Did you notice they spelled it wrong in his locker?
Maya:I did. I was confused. And then I thought we were in a different locker.
Patrick:They spelled terrible wrong.
Maya:Oh, no, nevermind this. No, no, no.
Patrick:They spelled terrible wrong. I'm like, either Tommy's dumb or the PAs just didn't give a shit. But anyway, not the point.
Maya:But yeah, it was character building. It's in universe. It's fine.
Patrick:Like every episode of the show, everybody who's worked on it has got a list of. Of credits a million miles long. And now I'm starting to think that choosing New York City as a place to pursue an acting career was the wrong choice.
Maya:We should have gone to Canada.
Patrick:We should have gone to Toronto. Oh, well. But no, I mean, he's a Boondock Saint, man. He was in both movies. He was in both of.
Maya:There's one Boondock Saint movie. Okay, I'm from Boston. There is one Boondock Saint movie.
Patrick:So that sequel is not a Boondock Saint.
Maya:No, it's. It's not.
Patrick:Well, he's in both of them.
Maya:So that Latino actor is wonderful, but there's so many better things to see.
Patrick:Him in, but tons of great credits. There's also in Stephen King's miniseries Storm of the Century, which was pretty cool, really.
Maya:Long time. I love Storm of the Century.
Patrick:Yeah, it went on forever, but I liked it. Yeah, but. And for the gay folks out there, which is mostly all. Oh, I should say the queer folks, whatever.
He was in Prom Queen, the Mark Holtz horror story. The Mark hall story, which is documentary about the, you know, the guy who wanted to take his boyfriend to the prom.
And it starred as the guy who wanted to take his boyfriend to the prom. My future husband, Aaron Ashmore. I will also take his twin brother, Sean Ashmore. I will also take both. I'm not really funny.
Maya:As your token.
Patrick:Totally identical. I can't tell them apart.
Maya:Anyway, both is good. Both is good.
Patrick:But one thing I've been noticing as a trend, almost every episode has had a really juicy or at least fabulous little role for older actress almost every single episode. And the character of Sadie, who we'll get into later, who waltzes in for one scene, I'm fascinated with him going, this woman is fabulous.
I can't wait to see more of her. And she never comes back.
Maya:She was great. But also, I want to talk about the timing of her scene and how upset she is not.
Patrick:But turns out I knew her, didn't realize I know her. And you know what? Everybody out there you know it's her because she was in My Bloody Valentine.
Mabel, who owned Mabel's Laundromat, who got pickaxed and thrown into the dryer looking about 20 years older in that movie, which was made seven years before this episode.
Maya:Wait, what?
Patrick:Okay, yeah, they had her made up like an old woman. So well that you would never guess that she was probably in her 50s. She looked good for her acting book.
Maya:That get paid? No.
Patrick:And she said that was one of those break hard roads. Like, I can't believe they killed this sweet little old woman. It's horribly. But, yeah. Patricia Hamilton. So we open on a gym. Manny's Gym.
Maya:Manny's Gym.
Patrick:And I believe it was on.
Yeah, it was on Buffering, the Vampire Slayer, the podcast about Buffer, the Vampire Slayer where somebody said, I believe that Sunnydale, the town on that show, is. Is 90% alleys.
Maya:Yeah, there's a lot of alleys in that town.
Patrick:For beautiful place in California, America town, Toronto. Like 90% alleys. It's all alleys. No Kates 80s joke. Never mind Kate and Allie
sitcom. Nothing.
Maya:What?
Patrick:Trae would have gotten it. Trae's on the floor laughing his head off somewhere.
Maya:I told you. I said he would be missed. I wasn't lying. And he's the only person who gives my Deep Space Nine references. I need him back. Don't make that face of me.
Patrick:Yeah. Because I got nothing to say. I'm like, that's.
Maya:Deep Space Nine is a delight.
Patrick:That's the one that's in space, right?
Maya:They're all in space.
Patrick:It's, like, deep, but, like, deep.
Maya:So deep in space. So deep.
Patrick:That's the Scott Bacula's in that one, right?
Maya:I will murder you. No, I will murder you across three boroughs. Okay, let's talk about the TV show we're here to talk about.
Patrick:Okay, so we open up Manny's Jam. And what I liked about Manny's Jam we've got immediately, the first person we're introduced to is fake Burgess Meredith.
Patrick:Come on, kid.
Patrick:Keep getting in the ring. Keep doing the Burgess Meredith.
Maya:Oh, yeah, I love it. Get your shoulder up. Get your shoulder up. All right, give me a right. Give me a right. Give me a left.
Patrick:Because. Because that's apparently how all boxing coaches talk. They all sound like.
Maya:That's the only reference we have. If he didn't talk like that, I would question his, like, credentials, his box of his boxerility.
Patrick:So Manny was played by a guy named Jack Duffy. Jack Duffy has been working forever. He used to work in the Big Band circle. But most notably this is pretty cool.
years,:He's training with Kid Cornellies. And I have to say this is another episode where we have boxers and boxers have titles and all the titles.
As Maya put it this way, last time was adjective now. And introducing another character adjective now. Archer said basic, basic, basic, basic, basic. Kate Cornelius is the most interesting one.
Everyone else is terrible. Tommy, terrific. Tony, what was the other one? There's another terrible one.
Maya:Oh, well, the owner of the gym is backwards. He's first name now he's Manny King.
Patrick:But anyway, he's training one of his boxers. And Kate Cornelius, he's supposed to be the big star the show, but unfortunately there's the guy who's sweeping up the big loser who everybody hates.
Our villain du jour, Tommy with his.
Maya:Inexplicable bad Brooklyn accent.
Patrick:Because we're in America town.
Maya:We're in America town. And also. He's bad.
Patrick:Yes, he's bad. He's bad. Well, yeah. They said he did time in the pokey and that he's too.
Maya:He did time because he was an enforcer for a gang, right?
Patrick:For bookies.
Maya:Bookies.
Patrick:Oh yeah. I am the enforcer. Tommy the enforcer. Then his name would have to be Eric. Enforcing Eric.
Maya:Alliteration's always hard.
Patrick:Yeah, especially when you're only limited to very basic acid.
Maya:It's got a translate from Canadian most obvious choice.
Patrick:And he, he, he, he, he takes a little spin on his sweeping and mopping tour into Manny's office and steals a pair of boxing gloves which turn out to be cursed having, as he said, belonging. Have you said earlier belong to killer Ken Kelsey?
Maya:I got so afraid of where this episode was going to go. It's kkk and the best boxer we have is this handsome, kind black man.
And I was just like, oh, please, please, please, please, Kid Cornelius, please be okay.
Patrick:No, it didn't go there.
Maya:It's a nail biter.
Patrick:They're saving that for later. Actually, that's a later episode.
Maya:Something to look forward to.
Patrick:Well, I mean there's a couple of race baited based episodes and stuff, but we're not. We're not there yet. We're not there yet.
Maya:We're not there yet.
Patrick:He gets caught by Manny. Manny's like, hey, whatcha doing in my office? You're not supposed to be in here. Supposed to be out there sleeping the farm.
Maya:And I want all the money to be in the towel box when I come in in the morning. I'll have you out in the street if it's not there.
Patrick:Why are you putting the money in the towel box? What do you want? Anybody?
Maya:I was trying to think if it was like, a spa policy where you get, like, a deposit for a towel. I was trying to make sense of it. I didn't get it.
Patrick:But he did say, put the money in the towel box, not from the towel. Anyway, we're nitpicking. But he gets caught. And Manny yells him. He's like, you put those things back. You can't have. Nobody likes.
Tommy Dunn:What the hell do you care if I use these gloves or not? I mean, you ain't doing nothing with them.
Manny:What I'm doing with them is keeping them.
Tommy Dunn:You just like all the rest of them.
Nobody will give Tommy Dunn a break. Man, I put those gloves on, I could feel was like fire, you know, My hands were burning.
Manny:I had you figured for a bum. I didn't know you were a nutcase.
You can't throw a hook, you got a hitch when you deliver the right. Even your footwork is lousy. A mile away, I can see you got nothing.
Manny:Now get out of here and do.What you get paid for.
Patrick:Sweep that floor, kid. Oh, I started life as a bookie beating up chumps. And so Manny. Manny leaves.
And as soon as he leaves the gloves, I guess just start doing the tingling thing because his hands don't.
Maya:His hands shake when he has them on. And you can see him be excited and scared when he has the gloves on. I don't have Trae here to keep me grounded. So he's got King's boxing gloves.
They're King's boxing gloves. So his hand starts shaking when he puts them on. And then he does this Peter Pan, me and my shadow act.
And they reuse this special effect the rest of the episode, but they reuse the particular animation a couple times where he has to boop the shadow's boxing gloves.
Patrick:Yeah. It's not even his shadow that's behind him. A different shadow comes, like boxing gloves.
Maya:It's like a mirror image. And it saunters up to him, and he has to, like, bro, punch it. And be like, yeah, now you go do your thing.
Patrick:Every time they did that, every time they did that. Fist connect. Wonder Twin powers activate.
Maya:Exactly.
Patrick:It looked. First of all, it just looked so gay that every time they did it. I went ting.
It just did a little ting every time the boxing gloves touched because it just looked very silly. But then all of a sudden, they're separate. He can go train. He can stay in the. He stays in the gym.
And he's working out with the bag, the punching bag.
Maya:There's an element of mirroring to it.
Like he has to be doing the same punching on the bag that the shadow is doing to then Manny K. And what's the Anne Hathaway movie where she controls the Kaiju?
Patrick:Oh, yeah, it's a big word. Colossal. No.
Maya:Yeah, I think that's it. I think it's colossal. I think you're right. But yeah, that was my first impulse because they have to both be doing the same thing.
Patrick:They don't though, because he just has to be boxing and the shadow will go off and do it as we.
Maya:Progress in the episode. It looked more like one to one. I'll fight you on this.
Tommy Dunn:Yeah.
Patrick:Goes in and out. I don't recall Tommy standing around in the gym like donkey Kong for 30 seconds at a time.
Maya:The shadow just doing the I am the big boxer pose is so good.
Patrick:But actually, the thing is, we go out to Manny in the alley in the parking lot, wherever, and he's being stalked by the shadow. And of course, it's a long alley. And at the back of the alley, you just see this giant shadow come up and hit that Donkey Kong pose.
And initially I went, ooh, that's really imposing. But then it just stayed there and stayed there. Then I thought, okay, that's a cardboard cut up.
Maya:Editing is hard. Okay.
Patrick:And then it moved.
Tommy Dunn:But.
Patrick: shadow effects were fine for: Maya:No, the shadow effects were. They looked really solid. I was pleased with them.
Patrick:Yeah. And Manny gets beaten to death.
Maya:Manny gets beaten to death. And it's sad.
Patrick:Yeah. So what's interesting, this particular curse doesn't have so much a distinct reward punishment aspect to it. It's more revenge.
It's all about he doesn't get a specific reward. Yeah, he can box really well, by the way.
Maya:He boxes better. They're the evil red shoes.
Patrick:Yeah, they're evil red shoes that also get revenge on whoever he's mad at.
Maya:Revenge shoes, revenge gloves. I don't know. But they. Oh, we skipped a fun detail.
Patrick:I'm never seen the red gloves. I don't ever heard of red gloves. I don't give a fuck about the red gloves. We are doing all the musical theater references tonight.
Maya:The word killer is stamped on the gloves.
Patrick:Yes. But before Manny dies, he takes his little finger and does that thing that only happens in mystery books and. And movies. Mystery movies.
Where he writes. Starts to write the name of his killer in blood on the ground, but all he gets out is t o. And dies.
Later on, when the gang is discussing everything and they said, well, it turns out that he wrote something. He tried to write something in blood. The letter's to. I wonder what that means. He was probably writing. This show really takes place in Toronto.
We're not in America. He was exposing the lie, which is why Manny had to be killed.
Maya:That tracks. So we open up in our favorite antique shop, and Robey is making a picture diary to send her fiance, Lloyd.
Robey is trying to make her own Instagram, y'. All.
Patrick:She sure is. And she sure is. And this is the first time we've heard of Lloyd since he left. And even so much so that Ryan has to comment on.
It's like, are you still engaged to him? You never going on.
Maya:You live with two men. Why is he still engaged to you? And she's like, when he sees the picture of the two men I live with, he will not feel threatened.
Patrick:No, not at all. Not at all. Not at all. Oh, and they get a notice that from. From.
Maya:From Mrs. Manny.
Patrick:Mrs. Manny. Sadie. I'm trying to remember exactly what it was. They got a whole bunch of boxing.
Maya:Stuff donated or they want. She wants them to go through all the antique boxing stuff.
Patrick:Oh, right.
Maya:And the bad news is it's because Manny died.
Patrick:Okay. That's what it was. Okay. And that's when they're going through the inventory list when Jack is one of his. Oh, no. Oh, no, not this thing.
Maya:And Sadie helps us out with some plot stuff. She's like, oh, well, the reason he has all this antique stuff, he wanted to make a museum.
But I'm also like, your husband was beaten to death in an alley, and you are having a swell day.
Patrick:Did you see your husband? She's like, if I heard that voice one more time. She was a lovely woman, by the way. She was an attractive woman.
Maya:She was. And she, like, had, well styled bangs. Her makeup was good. Robey's hair was a mess this episode. But not Sadie. Sadie was, well, kempt.
Patrick:Yeah, just backtracking a bit because we got some. We got some Jack Splainin.
Maya:Oh, got a Jacksplain.
Tommy Dunn:The reason she called us was that Manny bought some stuff from your Uncle Lewis. Like this killer Ken Kelsey's boxing gloves. Item two Nine, seven, six, four. Sold to Manny King Killer Ken Kelsey.
s.: Micki:Hence the nickname.
Jack:No, he had that nickname long before that. This time he just lived up to it. I was at that fight that was. That was really awful. Kelsey hung up the gloves after that.
Some people said he went a little strange, never threw another punch.
Patrick:Ding Dong Patrick from the future here. It was about here that Trae Dean tried to join the call again, and things went a little haywire.
He kept joining and dropping, and then the system kept locking up and everything got really bad. So we had to call the wrap on recording for that day. We came back a couple of days later, so we're going to pick up from this new spot.
However, Trae Dean could still not join the call for whatever reason. And there's some overlap between what we were talking about before and what. I just forgot where we were.
So there might be some things we're repeating, but this is the best jumping back in spot. So that's just the way it's gonna have to be. Bing bong. Back to the show. Mr. Mr. Manny bought some of this stuff off of Uncle Lewis.
Maya:No.
Patrick:Yes. Yes. You actually picked up that pair of boxing gloves from Uncle Lewis.
Maya:You mean the box of gloves that had the word killer stamped on them as if it were a clue?
Patrick:Yes, that would be the ones. That would be the ones. But I also, like, this is one of those examples where he might have had the antique, but it never called to him.
It wasn't for him. Yo, man, he wasn't out killing people.
Maya:Oh. Back to what you were saying when we first started talking about the bad objects calling to the bad people and then making them worse.
You're so right.
Patrick:Right. It didn't call to him. So it just sat in his office for all these years.
Maya:Because he was a good guy.
Patrick:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And for people who are, you know, longtime our fans, which you are, because you're here. Manny's widow is played by.
Well, I don't have the actress's name in front of me anymore, but she was Mabel. And the original My Bloody Valentine, the woman who ran the. The laundromat who everybody loved and then got Axe murdered. Anyway.
But that's one of the things I wanted to point out that we mentioned last time, is that this show, based on the eight episodes that we've seen so far. Nine, technically, nine episodes that we've seen so far. They write A lot of solid roles for older actresses.
Maya:Yeah. And especially considering when this was on the air, like that shouldn't be huge, but it is.
Patrick:Yeah. I mean it's like. I mean a lot of the younger roles are just very stereotypical, one dimensional, two sided.
But these older women roles are really sad. I mean, Birdie was a great role.
Maya:Yeah.
Patrick:Who else has there been? There was the. The doctor who ran that hospital.
Maya:Yeah. And she was. Nothing was made of her being a woman doctor. Her entire rapport was with the murder scalpel guy.
Patrick:Right. And same episode, gun lady.
Maya:Gun lady, Crazy gun lady.
Patrick:And there's been a few other like solid older women roles that just roll through and committed actions. And this woman just comes in for one scene, steals everything. I wanted her to be in it more.
Maya:Yeah, she was great.
Jack:Sadie, do you remember a pair of old boxing gloves belonged to Ken Kelsey?
Sadie:Killer Ken Kelsey.
Sadie:Sure.
Sadie:They gotta be around here someplace. You can't miss them.
Sadie:They got killer stamped right into the leather.
Maya:All this was for a museum, you.
Sadie:Know, Manny wanted to start one.The history of boxing.
Micki:Well, if you don't mind my asking, how did your husband die?
Sadie:He was beaten to death in an alley right around the corner from here.
Micki:What about the police?
Sadie:The police?
Sadie:What do they know from Nothing.
Jack:Haven't they got any leads?
Sadie:Oh, sure.
Sadie:Only one set of footprints at the scene of the crime. And they say Manny tried to write something.
Sadie:Two letters, T O.
Patrick:But it's a testosterone episode. We can't have anybody distracting everybody from Micki because when Micki gets into that gym, all dicks are on her.
Maya:That's the truth.
Patrick:They're all pointed at her. Yeah, but say. Okay, so Jack's planning her was fine.
Jack tells the story of Killer Kid Kelsey, who was a great fighter back in the day, known for his temper and till one day he killed somebody in the ring. He beat somebody up so badly that the man died. And that story would have been fine right there. But of course Jack had to jack it.
Maya:Wait, how have we not used the phrase Jackin it yet?
Patrick:On the show he's doing a Jack and Jack. Jack, Jack. It wasn't just enough that I told the story and I know the history, but don't forget, I was there.
Maya:I was there.
Patrick:I just happened to be at that fight because I'm a huge fan of the men in tight sweaty shorts thrusting at each other. Thrusting, thrusting, thrusting.
Maya:That's not how boxing works, Patrick.
Patrick:Isn't it? So the widow is basically. You know, they have a scene with this widow and she explains the Whole thing.
She's like, oh, yeah, Manny was murdered outside. Right outside the gym. And it's terrible. I don't want all those stuff.
Take as much time as you want cataloging it, which I caught last night was important because that gives him carte blanche for hanging around this long.
Maya:That makes sense because even in the latter half of the episode, we're just hanging out in the gym for no reason.
Patrick:Yeah. Nobody's going, who are these people? Why are they here?
Maya:Who are these people? Oh, well, Mrs. Manny says they could be here, so fuck off.
Patrick:And look at that guy's hat. He must be awesome. Jack's hat is a character onto itself.
Maya:I mean, it is a character. Awesome as a. We'll talk about it.
Patrick:Coincidentally, since Micki has decided to be a photojournalist for the day, her photojournalism is gonna be really key in this episode. And then it'll never, ever come up again.
Maya:Oh, yeah, that's great.
Patrick:So she's using it as an excuse to be walking around the gym taking pictures of boxers to see if she can catch her.
Maya:She's checking each of their gloves to see if it says killer on the gloves.
Patrick:And it also gives an opportunity to get hit on by every sleazy guy in the place, which is almost everybody.
Maya:Which is almost everybody.
Tony:Only one of a gorgeous guy like me.
Micki:I have to wait for the flash to recharge
Tony:me to recharge.
Micki:So what's your name?
Micki:I'll send you one.
Micki:If they turn out.
Tony:Fans call me Terrific, but you can call me Tony.
Tommy Dunn:Forget about him, doll. Tony here is just a boy. Why don't you take a picture of a real man?
Micki:The name's not Doll.
Micki:It's Micki.
Tommy Dunn:That's all right. You're still a doll. Hey, what say we go out for a bite to eat after the fight tonight, just you, me, and your camera, see what develops.
Micki:No, thanks.
Beat it.
Patrick:Done.
Maya:I believe she is called the skirt with a camera. And then. Oh, Tommy's being super creepy with her. And Cornelius stops it. Kid Cornelius for the win.
Tommy is insisting on getting a date with her, and she's trying to turn him down. And we meet. We meet the slightly less sketchy guy Punching.
Patrick:Hey, Terrific Tony. Hey, I'm Terrific Tony. He's terrible Tommy. I'm Terrific Tony.
Maya:Hey, hey.
Patrick:Welcome to Alliteration Gym.
Maya:Look, they're not. They're not good at wordplay. They're boxers. It's not their strength.
Patrick:The writers have no excuse.
Maya:Yeah, you're right. Tommy wants to fight Cornelius in the ring. Cornelius keeps turning him down. Tommy is hitting on Micki. Micki's all like, leave me alone.
You're making me uncomfortable, Kid Cornelius, stop.
Patrick:But there's also. There's also. There's also. Yeah, but there's also some sparring going on between Tommy and Tony. It's like, you want. Yeah. Gonna take on Kid Cornelius.
You could even take on talking shit about. Anyway, there's just shit talking going on. Basically, Tom, Tommy's like, oh, yeah, well, I'll meet you in the parking lot, man.
But first I'm gonna go beat up some random. There's some random boxing that happened just to kill another boxer to set up the fact that another murder happens.
This terrific Tony is murdered in the alley behind the boxing gym while everybody is watching Tommy in the ring.
Maya:Yeah.
Patrick:And Micki's like, but that's impossible. He was right in front of us the whole time.
Maya:Oh, you're. You're killing me with that. Oh.
Patrick:Oh, the Robey as Tony is being beaten to death in the alley. They're all watching Tommy in the ring.
Maya:Magic alibi.
Patrick:No, no, I'm. No, I'm trying to think of the word. Like just wailing, destroying his pockets, prancing. Yeah, yeah. Just mutilating this poor kid in the ring.
And every time a kid hits the canvas, he's strutting around with his gloves in the air, waving him like he just don't care. And Micki goes killer.
Maya:Oh, she's taking a picture. She sees the gloves.
Patrick:She's got the gloves on, but there's a dead body in the alley. But we saw the whole thing. How does this work? The one thing I was happy about is that Micki. Not Micki, Ryan.
When they first came to the gym, he's like, well, you know, I used to box back in high school.
Maya:Oh, it's like, oh, please don't do it. Don't do it. Don't put on shorts and get in trouble. Don't do it.
Patrick:That didn't happen. Thank God.
Maya:Thank God. So after the match, Ryan tries to get into Tommy's locker. And Cornelius, ever the stand up guy, is like, that's not your locker. What are you doing?
And Micki's like, oh, I asked him to hold on to my wallet because he couldn't come up with a better excuse. Or, hey, I think this guy is sketchy. Maybe help me out.
So we see the envelope inside Tommy's locker that says medical records, foreshadowing for later.
Patrick:Whatever you do, don't put the contents of this envelope on camera before the final scene. This will be important later when you've forgotten all about it.
Maya:I did forget all about it the first time and you helped me figure it out.
Patrick:But. So they're trying to get a hold of the gloves. At least they know he's got the gloves. At least. Regardless of how this whole work.
Like, well, we just got to get the gloves back. Doesn't matter how it works. Let's get them back.
Maya:I wrote down Robeyish. "I've got an idea." They wrote it out phonetically.
Patrick:Is she a cockney newsboy now?
Maya:I can't do the Robey. I can't do it. I can't. I don't know how.
Patrick:Well, there's. There's one thing that I can do that you two boys can't. No, can't. That you can't. Can't. Whatever, just say cut.
Maya:Patrick, just say it.
Patrick:Can't. I can't. I can't say can't. She said, well, obviously terrible. Tommy was totally into me because I'm Robey.
So I'm going to call him up and take him up on that offer to go get a sandwich and at the local cafa. That's not her. That's not her. Coffee. Get some coffee. That's not right. 25, 25 Minutes are gonna be. No. I've figured out the pattern.
But I still can't do it.
Maya:No, you, you are so much closer. But I. I don't.
Patrick:It's the aw's and the ah's, the aws and the ahs. No A's, A's and A's and odds go to all. But I still can't do it. But it's not right. It's not quite. Oh, it's a ban. Nobody cares. Nobody cares.
She's like, maybe. Remember me? I took a picture earlier and you were drooling all over me.
Maybe I thought we can go get some coffee at this diner in the middle of the night in this sketchy.
Maya:Place that's right around the corner from his apartment.
Patrick:That's right on the corner from the apartment. And meanwhile, while they're getting their. Their creepy coffee, Jack and Ryan are going to ransack his apartment to look for the gloves.
Jack:If he wasn't there, I could get us in easily enough. We could be waiting all night for him to come out.
Patrick:Ding dong, there it is. Patrick from the future here. Jack is gay. We could be waiting for him all night to come out. Honey, we've been waiting all season for you to come out.
the Closet ding song Back to the show. A perfect plan. What can Go wrong. Except for the fact that Tommy is super creepy. Super rapey.
Maya:Super rapey. My notes also say rapey creep in diner.
Tommy Dunn:Micki, what is that? You Irish? A name like that you gotta be. And not here.
Micki:My mother's Irish. My father's English from way back.
Micki:In fact, I have a feeling my.
Micki:Family must land with the pilgrims.
Patrick:Bing bong. There's the American town reference. Come on, Micki, you're gonna try to pass yourself off as a pilgrim. Not with those loosey goosey vowels.
No siree, ma'.
Maya:Am.
Patrick:Bing bong. Yeah, that was a very uncomfortable scene.
Maya:It was really uncomfortable. And I think it really spoke to the improvement in the writing.
That instead of going for something so outlandish, they went for the kind of abusey actually see day to day.
Patrick:Yeah. Even down to the fact that nobody in the diner helps.
Maya:Nobody helps. At one point, he puts his hands on her and no one helps.
Patrick:I'm sorry, we can't do anything. We're extras. But, you know, in real life, that happens, too.
Maya:Yeah, the diner goes really poorly. Jack and Ryan are going through the apartment.
Patrick:I forget how we get how Tommy gets from the diner back to his apartment, but left Micki alone because he.
Maya:Asked Micki up to his apartment, and Micki says no. And that's when he starts grabbing her wrist and trying to hurt her. And that's when no one helps her at the diner.
Is because he's saying, let's get out of here. And she's like, I, you know, I'd like to get coffee with you at least twice before I fuck you. And he's like, that's unacceptable.
You will fuck me now. I live up there. How dare you mislead me?
Patrick:Right? He goes back to the apartment. He catches Jack and Ryan in there trying to get the gloves. Puts the gloves on, and it's.
The shadow is coming after Micki. And while he's beating them up in the apartment. That's the whole thing.
Maya:Yeah, that's what it is. Because the shadow comes after Micki and she still has the camera on her. So she's taking pictures with the camera.
And one of the times the flash doesn't go off. But she's all excited because she thinks she has proof now.
Patrick:Right? Because she figures that she figures out really quickly the way to fight this thing is light.
Maya:Is light. It's afraid of light because it's a shadow.
Patrick:And another really irritating thing was that the men don't believe her.
Maya:They never do.
Patrick:How many months have we been at this? That's an impossible thing. A shadow Trying to come to kill you, Micki, that's just impossible. Really? After everything we've been through?
Maya:Well, and then Ryan has to trade his precious Green Lantern number three comic to get Micki's pictures developed in the middle of the night. But then the one picture where the flash didn't go off backs up her story.
Patrick:Remember getting pictures developed?
Maya:I do, yeah.
Patrick:See, kids, back in the day, you.
Maya:Had to put this stuff called film inside your camera. And your camera was not in a phone because no one had mobile phones because you couldn't afford them. They had car phones. They went in a suitcase.
Patrick:You had to really choose that picture that you're gonna take because it was gonna take, like, nine weeks to get it back.
Maya:And it was expensive.
Patrick:You had one shot at it, and 95% of the time, it was gonna be ruined. You gotta be really, really careful. You couldn't just take pictures of everything.
But she got a picture of it, and now they believe her, which was very irritating. They got me very mad at them.
Jack:I think I know how this goes. Look, when Dunn wears those gloves, his shadow splits off and goes after a victim.
Micki:What the heck is this shadow?
Jack:Well, Micki, we all have a dark side to our personalities, but we keep it under control. In Dunn's case, his dark side is unleashed.
Ryan:The gloves release a shadow that's able to kill anyone who's a threat to.
Micki:Dunn or anyone who's trying to steal the gloves.
Ryan:And if there's another fight
Jack:in order for him to win, there has to be another murder.
Patrick:What? I did, like, though, I forgot this when Tommy went back to confront Jack, went back to his apartment and found Jack and Ron in there.
They hadn't found the gloves. It's like, oh, God. What are you guys doing here? Oh, I bet you. I bet you're looking for this. And it turns out he is Shawshanked the gloves.
He, like, pulls aside a poster and there's a little hole in the wall. I'm like, he totally Shaw shanked his belt.
Maya:I forgot.
Patrick:Then we're back at the gym, and they are plotting.
Maya:I mean, there's some more jacksplaining. He explains the rules of the shadow boxer, which we understand now, even though.
Patrick:He didn't understand them at all. Like, a minute now. I understand completely what's going on. Let me explain to you, Micki.
This thing that you just saw, which you already figured out on your own, but I had to tell you about it because I'm a man, and I.
Maya:Have a hat and multiple murders just in the gym, in the open Air, not in the office.
Patrick:I'm very suspicious about Tommy. Suppose we should figure out a way to get the gloves from him here that we're talking about very loud.
Maya:And then Kid Cornelius is like, wait, you're suspicious about Tommy? I cared about Manny.
Patrick:Yeah. You think that Tommy killed Manny? I don't need the rest of your conversation. I'm gonna kill him for you.
Maya:That tracks. I'll help. Oh, oh, oh, oh.
I wanted to say at this point I was extremely surprised because all Kid Cornelius has done thus far in the episode is de escalate. He has been the most stand up guy. Like you said. He was the least toxic of the men at Manny's gym.
And I was terrified that the show was going to kill him because we established that the gloves belong to killer Ken Kelsey, which, you know, goes kkk if you abbreviate it. And I was like, no, no, no, no, you can't. Please, please don't murder this black character show. I will be very upset.
Patrick:No. And good things don't happen to nice people on this show.
Maya:No, they really don't.
Patrick:Our fabulous Kid Cornelius. He was played by Philip Aiken. Philip Aiken, extensive credits, over 174. This is only part of the 13th, the series appearance.
He was in Cube, the sequel, the hypercube one. He was in the RoboCop remake.
But notably he was in the movie Blue Monkey, which is directed by William Fruit, who is a Frequent Friday the 13th, the series director. So there's still that connection there. So that's pretty cool. So I was thinking that's going to happen or something.
Who's going to be murdered or something. But he doesn't.
Patrick:Thankfully.
Patrick:Thankfully, everything he does is de escalating in the best way possible.
Maya:Yeah.
Patrick:And he doesn't go say, I'm going to take out. I'm going to kill Manny out here on the streets. I'm going to challenge you in the.
Maya:Ring, which is where he's allowed to. Where he is very skilled.
Patrick:We're going to settle this the way we're like the sport of kings, legally, in front of everybody. Why is Jack in the locker room?
Maya:I wrote stop cruising the locker room, Jack. Also, if you're gonna cruise, maybe don't wear a bucket hat. That is not gonna help you. I don't care what your demographic is.
No one likes the bucket hat. It's not even like a bucket hat you'd see on a real fisherman where it like makes sense.
You're like, well, I don't love it, but there's Something utilitarian going on there. It's just an ugly hat.
Patrick:It's an ugly hat, and it looks like it's been through the wringer.
Maya:Maybe it's like the straightest accessory he owns, and he's trying to.
Patrick:It just looks wet. It looks like it's been in the rain.
Maya:It's bad.
Patrick:Too often. Someone left my hat out in the rain.
Maya:You can't. Don't eat your hat.
Patrick:But anyway, Jack confronts Tommy in the locker room. Is there some part of the plan that I. Oh. Oh. Because they figured out. Right. Right. Kid Cornelius is gonna be fighting Tommy in the ring.
That means the Shadow is going to be out looking for somebody to kill. I'm going to give it somebody to kill me.
Maya:Right, Right, Right. Right. We set a trap.
Patrick:We're setting a trap. But what? One of the things we talked about earlier is that the writing has gotten so much better.
The scene that we're making fun of with Jack in the locker room confronting Tommy and picking a fight with him about, hey, I know you've got the gloves, and I know what they do. And I'm gonna blackmail you, and I'm gonna meet you out in the alley, and you're gonna give me all the money or whatever, 90% of the postseason.
Maya:Yeah. And you're gonna do so for the rest of your boxing career. And he. He sells it in a way that's, like, creepy and upsetting. It's good.
Jack:I know about them. You know, I saw you steal them. I was in the back waiting for Manny. Oh, yeah.
Tommy Dunn:Well, you know, Manny give me the gloves. Kind of my good luck.
Jack:Oh, yeah, sure he did. Your friend Manny. How about if I go find a cop and let him decide? With your record, who do you think he's going to believe?
Tommy Dunn:What do you want from me
Jack:that's better. Let's talk about your career. You get to keep the gloves, I get to keep the money. Well, 70%. We got a deal.
Patrick:And we going back to Buffy. It reminded me of when Giles had a little flashes of when he used to be Ripper. Like, this was these.
This guy wasn't always just a tweety little librarian. He used to be something really tough and really mean. He's like that little flash of. Oh, gosh, he's actually a threat.
Maya:You mean like when we get him in repo. The genetic rock opera.
Patrick:No, that was. That was overtly a threat. It's like I said. I have all that composure, and I will snap your neck without even, like, losing any of my composure.
Maya:And Then he makes a dead guy into a puppet. It's my favorite.
Patrick:Thanks, Easter Bunny. Buck.
Maya:Buck. No one likes Attackless Jack.
Patrick:But anyway. But Jack, the scene in the locker room is gay and creepy at the same time, which is a good comedy, and it works.
Tommy is fighting Kiko in the ring, and the shadow is coming after Jack.
Maya:But then in the parking lot, we have Robey with her very strange flashlight. It looks like a flashbulb that attaches to a camera, but there's, like, a cable attached to it.
Patrick:Yeah, and it's, like, attached to the car battery. I don't know what's happening.
Maya:Something highly technical is going on here, and there's so many better options. But why would we have those, Right?
Patrick:And yes. So Jack's being attacked, but she's flashing the flashlight at it. And it's working. It's working, it's working. Except the bat, of course.
It's a hard thing. The flashlight has to stop working.
Maya:But every time the flashlight works in the ring, Tommy, he's blinded, he's weakened, and kid Cornelius gets some punches in.
Patrick:So not only defeating the evil shadow, they're defeating Tommy in the ring as well. And even though the flashlight dies and Zack's about to be killed, Robey comes to the rescue with the headlight.
Maya:Yay.
Patrick:And that's enough timing for Cornelius to just cream. That's the wrong word. Knock Tommy out in the ring.
Maya:Yes.
Patrick:That's what happens. They've got the gloves. Episode over.
Maya:Hooray. Happy ending for everyone, right?
Patrick:Yay. I can't wait. Let's just go to our fun little cutscene where everything's gonna be.
Patrick:Oh, my God.
Patrick:This is where the episode really surprised me. This is where. Cause they set up a announcement of a fairly standard episode. I thought it was over.
Maya:We get the thing back, we go back to the store, we make a dumb joke about an outfit or dating at the store. Roll credits.
Patrick:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or the variation is like, we go back, we're at the store, everything's wrapping up, and Micki has a moral upset about something that happened.
I know. That's the other option of how they. Yeah.
Maya:And then we'll look into the camera, we think about how sad that is, and then we'll do nothing that changes the pattern.
Patrick:Right. So we got all that.
She's like, it's just terrible that, you know, even though we got the gloves and Tommy's defeated, he's still never going to come to justice for killing the died.
Maya:Right.
Patrick:Because he has an alibi. It's not fair.
Micki:That slime killed two people and nothing's gonna happen to him.
Ryan:Micki, the guy's got a perfect alibi. What do you want us to do?
Ryan:Go up to the cops and tell.
Ryan:Him that a shadow beat two people to death. Cops don't believe in magic.
Maya:And she seems like actually upset with the rules of the universe for the first time. And it's so exciting to see that character growth. And then Jack's.
Patrick:That's not fair. When you play this level, there's no ordinary menu, Jack. It's either Iceland or the Philippines.
Maya:Or this place. You think I'm not gonna get there?
Patrick:Of course I knew I'm gonna get there. I was just scrambling for the.
Maya:Okay.
Patrick:She storms off to her bedroom in one of those.
Maya:I get my kicks above the neck.
Patrick:From the neck. She storms off to her bedroom. One of those. Merritt. Katherine Gallagher exits. You're h. Slam, slam. Horrible.
Maya:But then Jack says something to Ryan about the second oldest law about justice. I don't understand it.
Jack:I think what she's talking about is justice, and what you're talking about is law. Second oldest problem, Ryan. When your ideals outstrip the realities.
Ryan:And what's the oldest?
Maya:It didn't.
Patrick:It didn't make any sense. But the credit should have popped up there and went, you know the end, but it's not. And you see Micki angrily putting her head on the pillow.
Okay, I don't want any cocoa. I'm just gonna sit here and die.
Maya:Oh, that's right. Ryan offers her cocoa. And the moral is, always take the cocoa. But then she rolls over to the side and the little headshot of Lloyd is there.
Patrick:One of Maya's favorite tropes is when people care.
Maya:It's one of my favorite things in the world is when production doesn't want to pay for a new still and you just get actors headshots on the set. It's one of my favor, right?
Patrick:Because like as we said earlier, a still would require film and getting it developed. It's gonna slow production for at least eight weeks to just get one picture.
Tommy Dunn:So just.
Maya:He's got headshots. He's around. It's fine.
Patrick:I miss him so much. Good thing I have his 8 by 10 glossy to keep me company with him with his over the shoulder picture.
Maya:Oh. Oh, God. I don't miss that pose at all.
Patrick:None.
Maya:We're both mugging into our webcams right.
Patrick:Now doing horrible headshot poses which we all had to do at one point.
Maya:Sorry, I can't move myself to be stand in front of my brick wall right now, but trust me, I would.
Patrick:But I thought the episode was over. Except all of a sudden, Tommy's in her bedroom, hand over her mouth, and shit gets really. I screamed. I screamed.
I screamed at a Friday the 13th series episode because I thought it was over. They got me.
Tommy Dunn:Huh? Make me cut you. Where's my gloves? Know where they are. All right, we go get them. You make one sound, and I open you up
Patrick:And then the rest of the episode is very real, very dark, and genuinely frightening.
Maya: e starts off doing the, like,:But then he's like, no, I'm holding this to your neck. I'm gonna stick it in your nose. I'm actually here to harm you.
Patrick:Yes, he has the tie point of the knife in her nostril. That was grim.
Maya:It's grim, and it's as much threat of penetration we are going to see in this beautiful Canadian little TV show. It's terrifying. It's very upset.
Patrick:Visceral. Yeah. He wants his goddamn gloves back.
Maya:He wants his goddamn gloves back. So they're making noise, and Ryan comes to check on them. And he tells Ryan to go get the gloves. Ryan's like, oh, they're locked up. He's making.
Go unlock them, bring them back.
Patrick:Either locked up or they're on top of the refrigerator Because I was getting some potato chips for a homeless kid or something. I don't know. Whatever I do stupid things to do with. Because I'm right. I'm Ryan.
Maya:But he says, you better bring the gloves or I'm gonna kill your girlfriend. And even with a knife to her throat, Micki goes, I'm not his girlfriend.
Patrick:Oh, actually, we're allotted. He's my cousin, but, yeah, so Jack's there as well. And he makes Jack. He's like, you stay. You go for the gloves.
Tommy Dunn:Come on, old man. Hey, you want to try and take me? You were a lot tougher in the gym, weren't you? Turn around.
Jack:You got no alibi for this, Dunn
Micki:You're hurting me.
Tommy Dunn:For God's sake, man. Shut up, the both of you. Maybe I ought to cut you both to make you shut up.
Patrick:Hey, you better make it faster. I'm gonna cut both of them.
Tommy Dunn:Cause without the gloves, I go back to being like I always been on nobody. A bum like this one here wouldn't even talk to. Hey, doll. Maybe I'd have slay shot for that, too. Huh? Watch your pretty face while I dig it in.
H. Stringing me along like that, Making me think you liked me. I swear none of us meant to hurt you. Don't you hear me? That you're just like the rest of them.
Always stepping on me, keeping me down, keeping me from taking what should belong to me.
Patrick:Oh. So Ryan shows up and he's like, okay, I have come with the gloves. I have no secret plan.
Maya:No secret plan. And then Tommy's like, this is only one glove. Where's the other one?
Patrick:Oh, I forgot. It's on my hand. Ryan put on one of the gloves.
Maya:Secret plan. Go.
Maya:Boo.
Patrick:Ryan put on one of the gloves. Ryan is playing with evil, and he punched Jack in the face twice.
Maya:So Shadow Ryan is beating up Tommy, but we're beating up actual Jack. And it's like Jack is not ready for it. He was not warned. He is not bracing. And Ryan is just wailing on him because the evil is getting to him.
Patrick:Yeah. Yeah. Once. Even though at a certain point, Tommy is disabled is not the word I want to use. What's the word I'm looking for?
Maya:Incapacitated.
Patrick:Tommy's incapacitated, but Ryan can't stop hitting Jack.
Maya:The gloves are evil.
Patrick:Yeah.
Maya:Even that evil is too much.
Patrick:Yeah. And so even though they get the glove off of him, the rage and the betrayal that the other two characters are feeling that Ryan did this is palpable.
Micki:Why did you do that?
Ryan:I had.
Ryan:I had to do it to save you.
Ryan:I had to put on the gloves
Ryan:I didn't hit him that hard.
Jack:Ryan, that was without doubt the stupidest thing that you've ever done. Those. Those things were cursed. Don't you know what that means?
Ryan:It was a calculated risk, and it worked.
Ryan:I mean, look, look, look. I don't have a gloves on.
Ryan:And then nothing went wrong.
Micki:Jack, he's not breathing.
Jack:He's still alive. You better call an ambulance
Maya:It's real.
Patrick:Are you out of your fucking mind? You don't do this.
Maya:And he's like, what other option did I have? He was going to kill you. And he's obviously in this tough spot and this moral gray area, and I am so thrilled that the show is exploring that.
Patrick:Well, yeah, yeah. I mean, because there was no clear cut thing. It dissolve. Diffuse the situation.
But there could have been a really high cost, and it was a big moral quandary.
Maya:Yeah.
Patrick:To put the show in. In the last two minutes, like drop on the table in the last two Minutes of the show, and it was an interesting place to go.
And the rage of everybody involved is justified.
Maya:Oh, sure.
Patrick:Like, how could you do that? How could we trust you again after that? Like, how do we know how long this kind of stuff lasts? And it turns out that Ryan Shadow.
Ryan shadow, Ryan shadow, went through the night, did lay out Tommy didn't kill him, but Tommy died anyway.
Maya:Tommy did die. That's why we saw the medical record.
Patrick:Right? Because now we don't have. We conveniently got rid of the moral quandary of one of them killing somebody who was not in possession of.
Maya:I guess it wasn't.
Patrick:They got themselves out of a moral quandary possession.
Maya:It was self defense. They weren't trying to kill him. He did die.
We find out in the end of the episode from Kid Cornelius, right, that Tommy had a brain condition from being punched in the head too many times.
Patrick:Just time for us to get our cute check.
Maya:Technically not their fault, I guess.
Patrick:Technically not their fault. No. But that's the price of the glove. The glove's gonna kill you anyway.
The artifacts are always gonna kill you at the end, though, Ryan still unforgiven. But Jack with this gigantic shiner.
Maya:What shiner? Giant nasty black eye.
Patrick:Yeah, yeah. And Riley, he should be mad. He should be bad. It was a terrible thing to do.
Maya:He should be mad. And a shiner like that hurts.
Jack:Maybe what happened to Dunn wasn't your fault, Ryan. But for what happened to me, I hold you entirely responsible. Someday, Ryan, when you least expect it.
Patrick:Given the fact that in our minds he likes the dark alley action, it might actually up his trade a bit.
Maya:No comment.
Patrick:Just saying it looks. It looks a little rough. Looks a little dangerous. A little dangerous.
Maya:Dangerous. That's the only way he's gonna look dangerous. You're right.
Patrick:I'm feeling dangerous tonight. Give me my bucket. Hat. Wig, no wig. Wig, no wig. Now he's drows from the shape of water. Wig, no wig. But it's got to tie this sweater.
Should I match the other eye? Is it too matchy matchy? Now, Ryan, could you punch me in the other eye? Well, maybe a fat lip With a fat lip. No, it's too much.
Patrick:Too much.
Patrick:I'm done.
Maya:Stick a fork in you.
Patrick:Maya's giving me face. But this episode went places I was not expecting. And it was a real treat. Those last few minutes.
Everything got very real and very grounded, and everybody was playing for keeps in a way that Maya said earlier was not the camp that we're used to.
Maya:No, I'm Used to. Oh, well, Ryan didn't get stabbed because they opened the wrong door at the morgue and everyone's fine. Yeah, this had. This had real stakes.
Patrick:Didn't have a demon midget who exploded into a headband.
Maya:Sparkly glitter and glitter. Yeah, I know. I. I'm enjoying it. I liked this one a lot. I mean, it's no fez, but, like, I liked it a lot.
Patrick:It's a refreshing change because the camp stuff is fun, but just all of a sudden, you see everybody very grounded. It's a nice little change.
Maya:The camp stuff is fun, but also explaining to other people. Well, I like this thing a lot, but it's also a giant mess.
Patrick:Yes, like this episode is actually one that's not a mess. There you go.
Maya:Not a mess. Look, look here.
Patrick:It's less of a mess anyway.
Maya:Less of a mess.
Patrick:Unfortunately, there's not a lot of costumes to talk about here, so it's hard to pick out any fashion choices. Micki looks okay.
Maya:Yeah, not a lot of notable fashion like you said.
Patrick:No, the only. My favorite one was ring skank.
Maya:Oh, that's right, the ring girl.
Patrick:She was an extra. She just said when. When Kid Cornelius won. All of a sudden, this trashy 80s girl with like, crimp blonde hair, side pony. Too much product.
Blue eyeshadow, outdoor eyebrows, satin jacket, hot pants. Yeah, like doing that extra thing where I'm gonna, like, force my way to the front of the crowd.
Maya:I'm gonna be on screen. I'm gonna be on screen.
Patrick:I'm taking up the whole screen because I'm an extra.
Maya:Joke's on you. If you get visible, they don't call you back the next day.
Patrick:No, they sure don't. But you know, when you're rinse gang, you just. You just won the fashion award. Huh?
Maya:You won the fashion award.
Patrick:So we forgot to do this last time. It's not so much a celebrity casting for me, but it's a reimagining of the cursed item. Okay, this is a tough one. Someone gets a glove. It's boxing.
What else could it possibly do? And so the only way I can see this changing up is that it's not just a boxing glove, but it's not the glove from Yellow Submarine.
Ah, there you are, my little glovey darling. Go find them. Crush them.
Maya:Oh, no.
Patrick:Giant, the Fiendish Smashing Glove. So it's got. It's got teeth. It's giant. It smashes people. I got enough.
Maya:That's. That's a lot. Yeah, sure. No, I was thinking about gloves where if you. If you hit the other person hard enough, you could swap brains.
Patrick:You have to punch.
Maya:And it's gotta. There's got to be, like, rules about it. Like, it's got to be right between the eyes, or it's got to be exactly a certain speed. It's.
It's a much more violent boop. You know?
Patrick:Yeah, you gotta. You gotta double boop and.
Maya:Oh, yes. Yeah, just a double tap so then you can swap and then.
Patrick:Yeah. Yeah.
Tommy Dunn:So.
Patrick:Yeah. So that was. That was shadow boxer. We were all over the place today because it was difficult because there was no real shit show to latch onto.
Maya:All right, I need to mock something.
Patrick:No, I mean, even when. I mean, the only thing. Closest thing I could come to. And I forgot to say last time. Was that when Lucy.
When Micki showed up with the camera at the boxing gym, that she didn't walk in. Be like, hello, everyone. I'm Lucy Bender, sports photographer. How are you, girl sports photographer? Photographer of sports. Four girls. Bye, girls.
Lucy Bender. That's me. No, but she was just Micki. Everything was played for keeps. Nobody played any stupid roles. Jack didn't go to.
Jack didn't go into the locker room. Be like, hello,.
Maya:I'm threatening you. I'm gonna.
Patrick:I know that you've got game jobs, and you're gonna give me 90 of the taste of the fight, right?
Maya:Yeah. No, no. Bill Sykes from Jack today.
Patrick:It's a fine life. When you get. When you're sick of dealing with cursed antics. It's a fine life.
Maya:Fine life.
Patrick:Okay, but so next time, Lloyd's back for real.
Maya:I look forward to meeting Lloyd.
Patrick:Yeah.
Maya:I mean, remeating Lloyd.
Patrick:Yeah.
And this is the episode with Eric Colantoni from Veronica Mars called the Root of All Evil, featuring a wood chipper that when you throw a corpse in one end, buckets of money come out the other, which is as far as I go. I could use about three of those.
Maya:That sounds like video games.
Patrick:You know what?
Maya:You destroy an enemy and they just turn into a little, like, thing of coins. And the coins rise up and then crash down so they make the tingly noise.
Patrick:I shot someone and their body disappeared. But now I have a bracelet.
Maya:Isn't it shiny? It gives me plus two strength.
Patrick:I don't have to deal with getting rid of their cross because I got jewelry instead.
Maya:Ta da.
Tommy Dunn:They're dead.
Patrick:But they left this shining star behind.
Maya:It's mine now.
Patrick:I put it in my pocket. My giant pockets that have. That can hold 3,000 things.
Maya:I'm so sorry. Into your bag of holding. Never mind. I'll tell you later.
Patrick:You know what? I get it. I get it.
But I was just, like, holding and bag went together in my head and something pornographic wanted to come out and just didn't because it's too hot in here. It's way too hot.
Maya:There's plenty of D and D porn. But I'll send it. I'll send it to you later.
Patrick:Please don't okay it.
Maya:Stop me. I'm gonna do it now.
Tommy Dunn:Great.
Maya:Great.
Patrick:I look forward to that. All right. Thank you so much, Mayan. Thanks for everybody for joining me. We'll see you next time, patrons. I love you guys. It's 300 degrees in here,.
Tommy Dunn:And even.
Patrick:Though the show's going on hiatus, we'll still be here, so don't you worry. You'll be.
Maya:Where else are we gonna go?
Patrick:Well, Wallace, we go. Hello. We can't keep you waiting until September to find out what happens with the mulcher. The money mulcher. Mulcher of money.
Maya:Money mulcher.
Patrick:All right. So until next time, from everybody here at the very Curious Curious Shop, please take care of yourself. Stay safe. Damn you, Uncle Lewis. I can't count.
We're the worst.
Maya:We are the worst. We need Trae. He's the glue that holds us together.
